Religious hate mail addressed to me:
(Basically what happened was my so called “friends” of 3+ years invited me to church, then turned their backs on me. His universal consciousness had contracted, and everyone makes mistakes, but it still doesn’t make it correct.)
Original Letter:
Christian Noel Jarboe February 22, 2009 at 9:18pm I’m going to be honest, I hope you can handle it.
For months I drove out of my way and picked you up to take you to church, and everytime you were stoned. I asked you not to, but you did anyways. You stand in church with arms held high worshipping. But you say you don’t believe in God. Then what are you doing? Maybe if you didn’t smoke soo much weed before church you would be able to pay attention to the message.
I know you’ve heard them preach about not just going through the motions (raising your hands at the right time) pretending to be something your not. That’s why non believers think that Christians are huge hypocritcs.
Your right I’ve never dealt with gay feelings. I don’t have them. But I was a drug addict and tried stopping on my own and couldn’t. It wasn’t until I gave myself up to God and prayed that he would take away the urges, that I stopped. That was in 2003 and I haven’t even thought about doing drugs once since then. Prayer works, but ONLY if you believe.
Don’t get mad at me for not having the same beliefs as you. Mine are never going to change. Being gay is a choice, and it is wrong. Leviticus 18:22 Though shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Those are a couple of verses from that book you carry around on Tuesdays nights that your friend was nice enough to buy for you.
You said “IF Jesus is real”. The only way to Salvation is through Jesus Christ. No one is good enough on their own. HE saved us not because of how good we are, but because of how great he is.
Being blunt if someone isn’t saved when they die they go to hell, I don’t want that for you or anyone especially when I know that person is capable believing and they are just scared to take that step. That’s why you have to have faith.
I don’t have the answers to your problems. I wish I did, it would make things a lot easier. Maybe you should try having a sitdown with one of the pastors and seeing if they can help you. You made it my issue. I don’t want to sit with you. I’ll keep praying that one day you will be saved. Please, talk to one of the pastors. Im not sure what you’re laughing about, it’s serious.
And Thanks for reminding me that I’m not God. I forget sometimes. But I’ll try to make it sunny tommorrow anyways.
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My response:
*HATRED IS THE COWARDS REVENGE FOR BEING INTIMIDATED.* BIGOT-person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
BLACKBALL- To shut out from social or commercial participation; ostracize or boycott.
Not everyone at [unnamed church] is closed minded. Christians ARE NOT ALL the same. SIMILAR IS not the Same.There are plenty of kind/good hearted open minded Christians… This is NOT so much about Christianity as it is about BIGOTRY, HATRED, LIES, JUDGEMENT, ARROGANCE AND DECEIT I’ve have seen Love/Compassion within the walls of [unnamed church} Unfortunately I’ve seen Ignorance/hate too:
Christian Noel Jarboe February 22 at 9:18pm I’m going to be honest, I hope you can handle it.
ME: Thank You for your honesty. I too will be honest.
“Now I may have wisdom, and knowledge on earth; But if I speak wrong, than what is it worth?”- Lauryn Hill
Christian Jarbo: For months I drove out of my way and picked you up to take you to church, and everytime you were stoned. I asked you not to, but you did anyways.
Me: Get off of your soap box and don’t flatter yourself. 1st of all THE SOLE reason I smoke is to counteract closed minded bigamist. It’s not nice to point fingers. You are not my creator. Laws against smoking are man made. No one’s perfect.
Christian Jarbo: You stand in church with arms held high worshipping. But you say you don’t believe in God.
Me: I say ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE, and who really knows? I STAND TALL because, IF God exists , I DO want to pay my respects and GIVE THANKS for my many blessings. God DID NOT bless me with such talent to be MEEK AND MILD.
Christian Jarbo: Then what are you doing?
Me: Inspiration is self expression. I’m OBLIGATED to be the SAME PERSON INSIDE AND OUTSIDE of church. To use my blessings/Talents to help lift the spirits of others. Adding to the environment. Giving back. Paying happiness Forward.
Christian Jarbo: Maybe if you didn’t smoke soo much weed before church you would be able to pay attention to the message.
Me: I listen WELL and take NOTES on EVERY SERMON thankyou. As I said before, no one’s perfect, I smoke to counter-act damaging mental effects of bigotry.
“It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more ‘manhood’ to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind.”
Christian Jarbo: I know you’ve heard them preach about not just going through the motions (raising your hands at the right time) pretending to be something your not.
Me: I will NEVER pretend to be something I’m not. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if I had conformed to be something I’m not…I’m 110% Charles Smith and deserve to come learn about the bible JUST as anyone else.
Christian Jarbo:That’s why non believers think that Christians are huge hypocritcs.
Me: Correction. People think Christians are huge hypocrites because of people who stand on pedestals JUDGING and CONDEMNING others. Don’t get it twisted.
Christian Jarbo: Your right I’ve never dealt with gay feelings. I don’t have them.
Me: SPEAKING WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE IS IGNORANCE. Yet you still open your mouth… Wonder why?… I STAND TALL because, IF God exists , I DO want to pay my respects and GIVE THANKS for my many blessings. God DID NOT bless me with such talent to be MEEK AND MILD.
Christian Jarbo: But I was a drug addict and tried stopping on my own and couldn’t.
Me: Similar IS NOT the Same.-Ridiculous Argument.
Christian Jarbo: It wasn’t until I gave myself up to God and prayed that he would take away the urges, that I stopped. That was in 2003…
Me:… and you haven’t sinned since right? lol. Get off your pedestal Jarbo.
Christian Jarbo:.. and I haven’t even thought about doing drugs once since then.
Me: What have YOU thought about Jarbo? I learned in school that DRUGS are a SUBSTITUTE for SEX. Again, No one’s perfect.
Christian Jarbo : Prayer works, but ONLY if you believe.
Me: I believe ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE I’m very aware of how Prayer works. It’s the connection of the MIND, BODY, AND SPIRIT… or some Christians would say FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT. Yoga helps.
Christian Jarbo: Don’t get mad at me for not having the same beliefs as you.
ME: Wait, are you not being judgmental against me for not having the same beliefs as you??? Prime example of Hypocrisy and Double Standards,
I’m not mad, I’m disappointed brother. I thought we were better than this. ”With “friends” like this, who needs enemies?!
“The beginning of love is to let those we love be perfectly themselves, and not to twist them to fit our own image. Otherwise we love only the reflection of ourselves we find in them.
Christian Jarbo: Mine are never going to change.
Me: NEVER?The ONLY CONSTANT is CHANGE. I reserve the RIGHT to be WRONG, why don’t you? Sounds like ARROGANCE. If change didn’t happen I’d still be a slave. GAY is the new BLACK, it’s a MINORITY opinion that has been RIDICULED AND OVERLOOKED for FAR too long. Collective compromises that OVERLOOK minority opinion CREATES FALLACY.
“Clearly the person who accepts the church as an infallible guide will believe whatever the church teaches.” Just don’t preach christianity is for everyone if minority opinions are disregarded, ridiculed, judged and condemned.
Christian Jarbo: Being gay is a choice, and it is wrong. Leviticus 18:22 Though shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.
Me: The Bible is THE INTERPRETED INSPIRED WORD written by HUMANS. AKA FLAWED BEINGS. The book WHO MOVED MY CHEESE (also inspired word) states: “OLD BELIEFS DO NOT LEAD US TO NEW CHEESE.” Hence the OLD and NEW Testament.
“The Bible is a BLUEPRINT but NO ONE can live their life to the T as it describes… its just like a map; giving suggestions & guidance but in the end we decide our own paths.”- Chris Thomasson
Homo/Bisexual actions ARE a choice. Homo/Bisexual feelings ARE NOT- just like Heterosexuality. I was BISEXUAL when you met me. I’ll be BISEXUAL when you leave me. If I DECIDE to marry I’ll STILL be BISEXUAL.
Christian Jarbo:Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination…
Me: Dictionary.com says the “Spitting in public is also an abomination.” Do people threaten your life over it?
Christian Jarbo: …they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Me: Is that a death threat Jarbo? Because I now have record of it. Don’t PLAY God Jarbo. It was not until I asked GOd for forgiveness that he LIFTED ME FROM THE CHAINS OF MAN. My confidence now stems from acceptance of Sexuality. I have NEVER condemned you for ANY aspect of your sexuality.
Maybe, just maybe, this is my call to create change… ,maybe by typing these words I can improve someone else’s life. So if I must be tortured and possibly die for who I am, then let it not be in vain… Let it help build a better tomorrow.
“Here is a sigh for those who love me, and a smile for those who hate, And whatever sky is above me, Here is a Heart for every Fate”- Charlie Flaum
Christian Jarbo: Those are a couple of verses from that book you carry around on Tuesdays nights…
Me: Oh you mean the book I take notes on EVERY TUESDAY? I KNOW JESUS LOVES ME.
Christian Jarbo: …that your friend was nice enough to buy for you.
Me: MY FRIENDS and I love each other UNCONDITIONALLY. WE LOVE AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER. Don’t tell me who my friends are, I’ll reserve that RIGHT thank you. Don’t speak about monetary gifts… I will not allow money to be the root of false motives in my life.
Christian Jarbo: You said “IF Jesus is real”. The only way to Salvation is through Jesus Christ.
Me: Knowledge is limited to experience. SO, Who really knows? Who was there? Were you? ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE…”Now I may have wisdom, and knowledge on earth; But if I speak wrong, than what is it worth?”- Lauryn Hill
Christian Jarbo:No one is good enough on their own.
Me: “What most of the men came to understand themselves was that all they had was each other… If they were to make it out of such desperate straits, there only hope was to pull together…” – Launching a Leadership Revolution. SYNERGY
Christian Jarbo: HE saved us not because of how good we are, but because of how great he is.
Me: HE who? You or GOD? Sounds like someone’s trying too hard. So now that you’ve “Found” God, it gives you the right to JUDGE and CONDEMN me???
Christian Jarbo: Being blunt if someone isn’t saved when they die they go to hell,
Me: Who’s not saved? You? I love Jesus and Jesus love me…
Hell is a CHRISTIAN SCARE TACTIC- “Do what I say or I’ll hurt you.” Religion sometimes can be used to herd people like sheep…GREAT MINDS THINK ON THEIR OWN.
[IF what you say is true: that I don’t believe in God, as you stated; than I couldn’t possibly believe in hell– we can’t have one without the other after all. So the verses you threw my way wouldn’t really apply since there would be no heaven, IF what you stated about me was true. I’m free to lay with men or women…]- Taylor Sakseski
“IF religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon their young into an artificial conformity; but would merely insist on their UNBENDING QUEST FOR TRUTH…” – H.P. Lovecraft
Christian Jarbo: I don’t want that for you or anyone…
Me: Thus, it sounds like you want to control me, simliar to SLAVERY, HITLER, KKK. Homo is the new Black.
Christian Jarbo:… Especially when I know that person is capable believing…
Me: I KNOW you are capable Jarbo. Life IS NOT BLACK/WHITE. IT’S NOT 2D. IT’S NOT ALWAYS YES OR NO. Not EITHER/OR. LIFE is Multi-Dimensional, FULL of COLOR and even SHADES of GREY. . I repeat, ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE…IF U Believe the most complex questions of our life time are simple “yes” or “no” answers, then go back to grade school.
Christian Jarbo:… and they are just scared to take that step.
Me: Imagine how much COURAGE it takes to be me. To STAND TALL IN ALL THE I AM. Scared Jarbo? lol! I’m NOT AFRAID I was born to do this!
Christian Jarbo: That’s why you have to have faith.
Me: I have TONS of FAITH in the TRUTH I speak… I’m not the one who seems afraid… of what though?
Christian Jarbo: I don’t have the answers to your problems. I wish I did, it would make things a lot easier. Maybe you should try having a sitdown with one of the pastors and seeing if they can help you.
Me: I would NOT expect YOU to have answers to MY PROBLEMS… Yet, it CONCERNS ME that “You wish You did” Seems someone’s more interested in condemning others than dealing with their own insecurities… It seems, instead, that YOU could be struggling deep down… We’re all here to help you friend… You’re still welcome to sit with us in church, if you like…our group has UNCONDITIONAL love we’re not just good weather friends 🙂 Nothing comes between friends, especially fences.
“If you got worries, then you’re like me. Don’t worry now, I won’t hurt you… I won’t desert you…”- Langhorne Slim
Christian Jarbo: You made it my issue. I don’t want to sit with you. I’ll keep praying that one day you will be saved. Please, talk to one of the pastors.
Me: Thanks for blackballing me “friend.”
“I believe they can take anything from me, but they won’t succeed in taking my inner peace from me… They can say all they want to say about me, but I’m going to carry on… I’mma keep on… singing my song…” – Christina Aguilera
I will talk to the pastor, I will give him THIS EXACT transcript…
Christian Jarbo: And Thanks for reminding me that I’m not God. I forget sometimes. But I’ll try to make it sunny tommorrow anyways.
Me: LOL! Your smartassness makes it sunny Jarbo! That’s why WE love you!
Christian Jarbo: Im not sure what you’re laughing about, it’s serious.
Me: You can make jokes but I can’t? lol Another example of Double STANDARDS placed by “The White Supremacist Chauvinistic Mindset.” It’s not your fault bro, You were born into it. Especially down south in Kentucky. I love you enough to talk some sense into you. Brother, you even thought FEB. was a RACIST MONTH, as if SLAVERY NEVER HAPPENED. LOL! We’ll forgive, but we shall not forget…
“TOOK me a little while to discover WOLVES in sheep’s clothes who pretend to be brothers… YOU never suppose it’s those who are closest 2 YOU. They say all the RIGHT things to gain their position, THEN use YOUR KINDNESS as THEIR AMMUNITION, TO SHOOT YOU DOWN IN THE NAME OF AMBITION. Forgive them father for they know not what they do.”- Lauryn Hill
“Like Cain and Abel, Caesar and Brutus, Jesus and Judas, Backstabbers do this… Men who lack conscious will even lie to themselves… A friend once said and I found to be true, Everyday people lie to God too- So what makes you think they won’t lie to you? Forgive them father for they know not what they do.”- Lauryn Hill
God, grant me the serenity 2 accept the things I cannot change; the courage 2 change the things I can; and the wisdom 2 know the difference.
Jason Gerstorff What a douchebag. Fuck that guy and fuck [Southeast]. Righteous motherfuckers.
Brian Davidson charles, you tagged me in this, so that makes me think you would be interested in my feedback. I would be glad to get some coffee or dinner and talk about it.
Chris Thomasson UGGGGHHH I still get heated and you sent it to me last night… this only adds to things!
February 23 at 7:22pm ·
Dana D. Martin What assholes! See that why I don’t go to church, I’m not a conformist, I like to think for myself.
Josh Brierly Proud of you kid for standing up in what you believe. You already know my opinions of this, so I shall remain quiet on the matter. Keep the faith… as in yourself, your family, and your friends. I have a book for ya to read if you’re up to it ha ha..
Mikeal T. Pinkard Charles, I’m happy & proud that you stood your ground. These “Christians” tend to forget that Jesus Christ didn’t judge people. He accepted EVERYONE. He simply let us know that we have the right & the choice to make our own decisions. We have the right to follow our own paths. I’m so tired of these do-gooders trying to tell everyone that they’re always right & everyone else is wrong. They use religion as an excuse to control others & force them into their lifestyles & beliefs. It’s enough to make me hate going to church.
Alec Walker what do you expect from a cult, like you said he was born into it, probably with parents that made him read the bible everynight before he went to bed and such.
Charles Smith Lets not make assumptions people Lets stick with what we know
Marissa Davis Charles I love you for who you are, does he go to [unnamed church] ? They get on my nerves, all the ones i know are hypocrits and preach about being christian but don’t act christian. I hate people like that. Im so proud of you for standing up for what you believe in and standing up for YOURSELF. fuck what others think God loves you for who you are not what other want you to be. Stay true to yourself always! you inspire people to do the same.
Charles Smith don’t hate makes us no better than them if we do
OlgaMaria Cruz Smock charles, i love that you are so openminded and gentle, even when others are small-minded and (even just with their words and thoughts) violent. you keep that sweet spirit and let other people make their own choices. attitudes are choices, too. proud of your strength–you inspire me.
Nichole Cox WOW!!!
Austin Rich You the man C
Amy Bryant “Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange has happened to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner? So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.” 1 Peter 4:12-19
I am proud to call myself a Christian and proud to say that i attend [unnamed church]. These comments don’t affect me anymore because i know that just because i suffer and am judged for being a Christian here on earth that i can handle it because Jesus suffered on that cross for me and all of us. God’s gift to me after earth will far exceed every earthly blessing he has provided me. Say what you want. Im proud to bear Christ’s name.
Proud of you Christian for standing by your beliefs and for standing by Christ. even if it wasn’t handled perfectly, none of us are perfect and at least you stood by your beliefs!
Victoria Syimone Taylor you know what i think baby….
Taylor Saksefski Okay, I don’t even know who this Christian guy is, but I hate him. Well maybe not him, but his principals. He and idiots like him are the reason Christians get a bad rap. Hypocrites, judgy, etc. Jesus said to love all men. He who has not sinned may cast the first stone. No one is perfect and NO ONE has the right to judge anyone because last time I … See More
Martin Toot Toot ChavezGarcia All I’m going to say is, I love you brotha for who you are and for what you mean to me. If others choose to believe in a path that leads them to shun others sounds like it’s their problem. One love from the Toot Tooting Mexican.
Charles Smith I’m no better than anyone else’s potential
John Schneider I heard about this and wanted to check it out. Some people are just f’n closed minded douche bags. Let the haters do their job and keep hatin. I got your back pimpin
Lisa D. Smith Whoever this person is-it states he who is without sin cast the first stone/I also no that God is a forgiven God-he excepts change and he forgives even the most terrible of sinners!! Everyone out here has sinned-including the nutcase you where talking to-if he cannot accept you for who your are (as God would do) he is not a true friend or what ever…
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So, as I recall from currently day 2020 another minister at the post messaged me on facebook telling me to take this down. I said “Maybe.” Then, our house phone called itself while all this was blew up on my facebook account. Synchronicity, no coincidences. My father then got scared like the bitchassnigga he is and told me to take it down.
*** Before the above, on another occasion*** I was sitting in the audience of The Post Kyle Idleman was speaking about popular culture and Kanye West. I forget the specifics of his sermon because I stopped listening after his racism, but he begins discussing Kanye and says to the congregation “Well, first of all, if you’re sitting next to Kanye in church- then you’re probably in the wrong church.” The entire audience laughs out loud, as Kyle skims the audience basking in his racist ass glory- that is, until he and I lock eyes. I’m not laughing then, and I’m not laughing now #BlackLivesMatter bitch.
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